The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation is directing $132 million to help repair three key local bridges, officials announced Thursday. But don’t expect the resulting work to disrupt your commute any time soon.

The money is a mix of state and federal funds, including funds from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. It’s meant to help offset the impact of high-cost projects.

“These projects are costly, but they’re important for the entire region here in Pittsburgh and Allegheny County, and we can’t put off these upgrades for too much longer,” said Lt. Gov. Austin Davis at a Thursday-morning press conference.

Nearly half the money, $60 million, will be added to state and federal dollars already allocated to renovations of the Fort Duquesne Bridge. In total, it will cost an estimated $162 million to repair the main span of the bridge, as well as the ramps feeding into it.

The West End Bridge will get $47 million, which will help cover the $120 million projected total cost. Other state and federal money will cover the rest of the cost.

PennDOT is also committing $25 million to the repair of the McKees Rocks Bridge; upgrades that are expected to require $90 million to complete.

“The West End and McKees Rocks bridges are nearly 100 years old,” Davis noted. “We want them to be here for another 100 years.”

Together, the bridges carry more than 310,000 people across the rivers each day.

Design and construction on the projects can move more quickly now that they’ve received additional funds, added PennDOT secretary Mike Carroll. Plus, money that would have gone towards repairing the three bridges can now be spent elsewhere in the region.

“So it’s really good news for Allegheny County, and it’s equally good news for the counties that constitute the southwest region,” Caroll said.

But don’t expect the construction to impact your commute anytime soon. Caroll warned that the projects still need to be designed, so the timeline “will be measured in years.”

“But the good news is, that would be far fewer years than it would have been without the money,” he added. “Compiling the money necessary to deliver these major projects and do all the other things that PennDOT has to do is a real challenge.”

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State and local officials announced Thursday a $132 million-dollar plan to make repairs to three of Pittsburgh’s busiest bridges.

Fort Duquesne, West End, and McKees Rocks, these are the bridges the new investments will focus on.

PA Lieutenant Governor Austin Davis told KDKA Radio how the funds will be distributed amongst the major bridges

“That $132 million includes $60 million to preserve and rehab the Fort Duquesne Bridge as well as multiple approach spans to the bridge,” said Davis. “It includes $47 million more for the West End Bridge and it also includes $25 million for the McKees Rocks Bridge.

Transportation Secretary Mike Carrol noted how design work still needs to be done. The repairs to come need to be measured in months and years.

Built in 1959, the last rehab project on the Fort Duquesne Bridge was in 2009. An average of 18,158 drivers use the lower deck of the bridge every day.

The McKees Rocks Bridge is currently under renovation and the last West End Bridge rehabilitation was in 1991.

“There are significant needs across our transportation network, and certainly in southwest Pennsylvania,” said PennDOT Secretary Mike Carroll. “Thanks to the leadership at the federal level that got us the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, more federal funds are available for our program, and thanks to the smart planning by the Shapiro Administration and the Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission, we’re making the most of our federal and state dollars and investing funds in meaningful projects that will benefit Pennsylvania communities.”

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Lt. Gov. Austin Davis and the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation announced Thursday the state has awarded $132 million in discretionary funds to help upgrade three major bridges — the Fort Duquesne Bridge, the West End Bridge and the McKees Rocks Bridge.

That money will be used to jump-start ongoing design work to improve the bridges, which have been identified as high-priority projects, but PennDOT didn’t have the money to move forward to construction. The special grants — $60 million for Fort Duquesne, $47 million for West End and $25 million for McKees Rocks — only cover a portion of the estimated costs for the projects but will move the work up by several years, said Jason Zang, PennDOT’s district executive for Allegheny, Beaver and Lawrence counties.

During a news conference at the David L. Lawrence Convention Center, Downtown, PennDOT Secretary Mike Carroll said local officials convinced the administration that the bridges need to be upgraded before they deteriorate to the point where they need serious weight restrictions.

“We can’t put off this work much longer,” Davis said. “We have to take action now.”

Zang said the bridge projects are in various stages of design so it hasn’t been determined where construction will begin first. They will not be rehabilitated at the same time because the other two bridges will serve as alternative routes while one is under construction.

“They are at least a couple of years away,” Zang said. “We’ll go through the design process and see which one is ready first. McKees Rocks is probably the closest because mostly we are going to paint it, and Fort Duquesne is the most complicated.”

The special state funding provides an additional benefit, Zang said, because it means the cost of the bridge work will not have to come from the district’s annual construction package of about $350 million a year. Another $162 million can be spent on other local projects that can be done sooner because that money won’t be used on the bridges.

“That [special funding] will help get other projects moving,” he said.

State Rep. Aerion Abney, D-North Side, said the long-standing joke is that Pittsburghers live in their own neighborhoods and react negatively to the idea of crossing a bridge. That’s not true, he said, because many of his constituents have to cross bridges to obtain food, medical care and other life necessities.

“People cross the bridges all the time,” he said. “I can’t overstate the [importance] of this funding.”

Darrin Kelly, president of the Allegheny-Fayette Central Labor Council, said the projects will create about 1,300 construction jobs with good union wages.

“That’s important, but we can’t overlook the people,” he said. “Our bridges are our gateway.”

Upgrades for those three bridges have been on PennDOT’s wish list for several years. In August 2022, the agency applied unsuccessfully for a $165 million federal competitive grant that would have used part of $12.5 billion in competitive funds available under the Biden administration’s infrastructure program.

It packaged the bridges together because they are among the region’s busiest and are located within a few miles of each other between Point State Park and McKees Rocks.

The Fort Duquesne Bridge, which crosses the Allegheny River between the park and Pittsburgh’s North Side, has had several incidents in recent years where chunks have fallen from the bridge into parking lots and streets under it. The 921-foot double-deck bridge is in line for a new deck, expansion dam replacement and structural steel repairs.

In addition to the bridge itself, 19 ramps and smaller bridges at the North Side end would be included in the work.

The projected cost of that work is $162 million.

The McKees Rocks Bridge, the longest in Allegheny, Beaver and Lawrence counties at about 5,900 feet, also needs a new deck and structure work at an estimated cost of $90 million. The bridge spans the Ohio River between the city’s Brighton Heights neighborhood at Route 65 and McKees Rocks at Route 51.

That bridge is in the second phase of a $22.4 million project to replace sidewalks and upgrade a series of ramps on the Route 51 end of the structure.

Although the West End Bridge was added to the Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission’s Transportation Improvement Plan two years ago for $1.6 million in planning funds, PennDOT included it in the federal grant application in an effort to move it along faster. The bridge is 1,979 feet long and crosses the Ohio River to join the city’s Chateau and West End neighborhoods.

A total rehab of that bridge is estimated at $120 million.

Zang said the agency will continue to seek conditional federal funding for the projects.

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Big improvements are on the way for three busy bridges: the McKees Rocks, Fort Duquesne and the West End bridges. The investments total $132 million.

The city of bridges requires a regimen of constant repairs. Local politicians say they fought for the money and got it.

These bridges are old and need critical work now. Our local leaders found some more money, but two questions still remain: Will it be enough? And how long do we need to wait before work gets going?

Standing in front of a backdrop of bridges, our politicians say we just secured $132 million to rehab three of them.

“This is yet another example of our administration’s GSD attitude: get stuff done. I’ll let you drop out the ‘stuff,'” said Lt. Gov. Austin Davis.

Davis and local leaders asked PennDOT’s secretary to push that funding reserved for critical projects our way. He did, but don’t expect orange cones soon.

“Well, there’s still design work that has to be done and so I would measure probably in months and years and not days and weeks,” said PennDOT Secretary Michael Carroll.

Former Allegheny County Executive Rich Fitzgerald, who is now the executive director of the Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission, said this money saves us big down the line.

“These bridges are in decent condition right now. In a few years, if they weren’t in such good condition, you’d have to start weight limiting and restricting things and boy, would that hurt the economy here,” Fitzgerald said.

The bulk of the $132 million will go towards repairing the Fort Duquesne Bridge, and then two other 100-year-old bridges.

“It includes $47 million more for the West End Bridge, which was built in 1930 and last saw a rehab of the main river span back in 1991,” Davis said.

And the final $25 million will repair the McKees Rocks Bridge — the longest bridge in Allegheny County that last saw a deck replacement in 1985.

Politicians continue to push for new funding and get creative when it comes to moving money. Because if the Fern Hollow Bridge collapse taught people anything, it’s don’t expect it to keep standing if you’re not going to take care of it.

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The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation announced that the Fort Duquesne Bridge, the West End Bridge and the McKees Rocks Bridge will all undergo major repair work that will last several years, at a cost of $132 million.

Structural repairs to decks, surfaces, underbellies and beams are some of the areas that will gain attention for the projects.

Repairs are expected to run through 2034, a massive work project that will produce at least 1,500 new jobs, based on estimates by the Allegheny-Fayette Labor Council.

“Over 150,000 men and women cross them in one day, living their lives,” said Darrin Kelly, president of the Allegheny-Fayette Labor Council. “How much commerce go over top of them? How many fire trucks protect people? How many ambulances?”

Roadways and other structures leading up to the bridges will also face repairs.

“A transportation network that can provide the span across these rivers, and to connect the communities necessary to make sure that the economy of this region and our state thrives,” Pennsylvania Secretary of Transportation Mike Carroll said.

“These projects are costly, but they’re important for the entire region here in Pittsburgh and Allegheny County and we can’t put off these upgrades for too much longer,” Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. Austin Davis said.

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This week, we’re taking a look at Pittsburgh Regional Transit.

Like many institutions, it has faced challenges over its 60-year history, but the agency says it’s always working to be better. We discuss what the agency has in store for 2024, the challenges PRT is facing and improvements that riders would like to see.

Segment One: Katharine Kelleman – CEO, Pittsburgh Regional Transit
Segment Two: Laura Chu Wiens – Executive Director, Pittsburghers for Public Transit
Segment Three: Rich Fitzgerald – former Allegheny County Executive and incoming Executive Director of the Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission

View the video at wtae.com.

The new executive director of the Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission is no stranger to the 10 counties in that organization.

Rich Fitzgerald was Allegheny County’s executive for 12 years, but also served on the SPC board and its executive committee.

Still, Fitzgerald is planning to meet with the boards of commissioners in Indiana, Armstrong, Westmoreland and other counties that surround Allegheny.

His meeting with the Indiana County Commissioners is scheduled for Jan. 22.

“One of my jobs will be to hear from the commissioners what their goals are,” Fitzgerald said Tuesday in an interview that also is for an upcoming annual business review in The Indiana Gazette.

SPC may be best known for its role as a metropolitan planning organization, working on such measures as the Transportation Improvement Plan.

As was disclosed during a series of public meetings this past fall, SPC is dealing with $3.9 billion in traffic projects across 10 counties around Pittsburgh, including Indiana County.

But, as was noted by Indiana County Commissioner Sherene Hess during that interview with Fitzgerald, there is a lot of things happening, involving a wide range of partnerships meant to drive Indiana County forward.

According to SPC’s website, its mission is to help direct the use of state and federal transportation and economic development funds allocated to the region — approximately $35 billion through 2045.

The commission states on that website that it works closely with counties, cities, municipalities, and townships access this funding and support them with their planning needs.

Fitzgerald has served on SPC’s board, working among others with retired Indiana County Commissioner Rodney D. Ruddock during his four terms on the county board, as well as his service on SPC’s executive committee, where Ruddock once was chairman.

Recently, Armstrong County Commissioner Pat Fabian was elected as SPC’s chairman.

Hess also serves on that executive committee, and is part of the SPC’s board along with fellow Commissioners R. Michael Keith and Robin A. Gorman, as well as Indiana County Office of Planning & Development Executive Director Byron G. Stauffer Jr. and Indiana County Chamber of Commerce President Mark Hilliard.

That includes broadband, workforce development and economic development.

SPC is designated by the Appalachian Regional Commission as a Local Development District and by the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Economic Development Administration as Economic Development District for Southwestern Pennsylvania.

Fitzgerald said he will get the priorities of each county’s officials.

“There will be follow up meetings based on their recommendations,” the new SPC executive director said.

Fitzgerald also wants to look at what opportunities are available in each county.

In Indiana County, a probable destination is Windy Ridge, a county industrial park on the outskirts of White Township’s Oakland Avenue business district, where Philadelphia-based Urban Outfitters Inc. purchased nearly 48.5 acres from the Indiana County Development Corporation to construct a 750,000-square-foot fulfillment center, creating 225 permanent full-time jobs.

Another county facility, the 119 Business Park in Center Township, is home to the Air Liquide biomethane project now under development.

The Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission, also known as the Southwest Pennsylvania Regional Planning Commission, was formed in 1962.

In 1974, it was designated the region’s Metropolitan Planning Organization by the governor of Pennsylvania.

Until 1992, SPRPC only covered the Pittsburgh Metropolitan Statistical Area counties of Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Butler, Washington and Westmoreland, as well as the City of Pittsburgh itself.

In 1992, SPRPC joined with Fayette, Greene and Indiana counties to form the Southwest Pennsylvania Regional Development Council, to as a Local Development District.

In 1999, SPRPC and the council came together as the Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission, or SPC as it is now known.

In 2003, SPC expanded to include Lawrence County.

View the full article at indianagazette.com.

The Pittsburgh Business Times has named the Pittsburgh Power 100, a listing of the region’s most influential business leaders. 

The complete list is presented alphabetically below. Profiles will be published in the Feb. 16 weekly edition. The Power 100 is not a ranking, but rather a guide that aims to reflect who are the most influential people at this moment in time. The editorial staff of the Business Times selected those who made the list, with input from the community at large. It does not include elected officials and is limited to those who currently reside in the Pittsburgh metro area. 

To develop our list, we asked ourselves a series of questions: Who has the power to move the market? Whose clout reaches beyond their company or industry? Who in the business community does the governor or local leaders call for help? Who do you need to know to do business in this town? Who is likely to shape our futures?

The influencers on this year’s list are connectors, people who build bridges. They are executives, leaders and community builders. In short, they are the people to call to make things happen, and they are the people whose power extends well beyond their given roles. Many are familiar names, but some are less well known, working behind the scenes.

For the first time, this year’s list also features an additional set of Pittsburgh Power 100 Legends. These are people who over the breadth of their incredibly influential careers, they are deserving of being honored with this special recognition.

While this year’s selections are finalized, there were many people that have played significant roles, and many more will undoubtably emerge in the next year. If you have anyone you’d like to suggest for the 2025 Power 100, please email me at jbeahm@bizjournals.com.

Without further ado, this year’s Power 100 leaders are:

• Kevin Acklin, president of business operations, Pittsburgh Penguins
• Dan Adamski, senior managing director, and JC Pelusi, market director and international director, corporate solutions, JLL
• Bill Artman, CEO, Giant Eagle Inc.
• Mamadou Balde, market leader and managing director of Pittsburgh and West Virginia operations, CBRE
• Leroy Ball, CEO, Koppers Inc.
• Jenn Beer, president and CEO, Leadership Pittsburgh Inc.
• Gregg Behr, executive director, The Grable Foundation
• Eric Boughner, chairman, BNY Mellon Pennsylvania
• Jeff Broadhurst, president and CEO, Eat’n Park Hospitality Group
• Chris Brussalis, president, Point Park University
• Quintin Bullock, president, Community College of Allegheny County
• David Burritt, president and CEO, United States Steel Corp.
• Christina Cassotis, CEO, Allegheny County Airport Authority
• Lou Cestello, head of regional markets and regional president of Pittsburgh and southwestern Pennsylvania, PNC Financial Services Group Inc.
• Rob Cherry, CEO, Partner4Work
• Rob Cochran, CEO and chairman, #1 Cochran Automotive
• Jeff Craft, Pittsburgh office managing partner, Deloitte
• Dave Daquelente, executive director, Master Builders’ Association of Western Pennsylvania Inc.
• Leslie Davis, president and CEO, UPMC
• Nick DeIuliis, president and CEO, CNX Resources Corp.
• John Deklewa, CEO, and Shawn Fox, president, RDC Inc.
• Vincent Delie Jr., chairman, president and CEO, F.N.B. Corp.
• Bill Demchak, chairman, president and CEO, PNC Financial Services Group Inc.
• John Dick, CEO and founder, CivicScience
• John Engel, chairman, president and CEO, Wesco International Inc.
• Evan Facher, vice chancellor for innovation and entrepreneurship and associate dean for commercial translation, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
• Rich Fitzgerald, executive director, Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission
• Cliff Forrest, president and founder, Rosebud Mining Co.; owner, Pittsburgh Brewing Co.
• Patrick Fragman, president and CEO, Westinghouse Electric Co.
• Evan Frazier, president and CEO, The Advanced Leadership Institute
• Joan Gabel, chancellor, University of Pittsburgh
• Ajei Gopal, president and CEO, Ansys Inc.
• Ken Gormley, president, Duquesne University
• Tom Grealish, president, Henderson Brothers Inc.
• Steve Guy, president and CEO, Oxford Development Co.
• Charles Hammel III, president, Pitt Ohio
• Karen Hanlon, COO and EVP, Highmark Health
• Maggie Hardy, owner and CEO, 84 Lumber Co. and Nemacolin
• Jason Hazlewood, Pittsburgh office managing partner, and Casey Ryan, global managing partner, Reed Smith LLP
• David Heaton, president and CEO, The Buncher Co.
• Lauren Hobart, president and CEO, Dick’s Sporting Goods Inc.
• Diane Holder, president and CEO, UPMC Health Plan; president, UPMC Insurance Services Division; executive vice president, UPMC
• David Holmberg, president and CEO, Highmark Health
• Mike Huwar, president, Peoples
• Farnam Jahanian, president, Carnegie Mellon University
• Tommy Johnson, managing partner, Allegheny Strategy Partners
• Matthew Johnson-Roberson, professor and director of Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
• Greg Jordan, executive vice president, general counsel and chief administrative officer, PNC Financial Services Group Inc.
• Justin Kaufman, Pittsburgh office managing partner, PwC
• Katharine Kelleman, CEO, Pittsburgh Regional Transit
• Darrin Kelly, president, Allegheny/Fayette Central Labor Council, AFL-CIO
• Mark Kempic, president and COO, Columbia Gas of Pennsylvania and Maryland
• Kevin Kinross, founder, The Carey Group; principal, 40 North Advocacy LLC
• Tim Knavish, chairman and CEO, PPG Industries Inc.
• Jeff Kotula, president, Washington County Chamber of Commerce
• Michael Lyons, head of Corporate and Institutional Banking, PNC Financial Services Group Inc.
• David Malone, chairman and CEO, Gateway Financial Group
• Christopher Martin, president of Carnegie Bosch Institute and director of R&D at Bosch’s Research and Technology Center
• David McCall, International president, United Steelworkers
• Christopher McElroy and Steven Thompson, co-CEOs, Schneider Downs & Co. Inc.
• Jim McQuade, president and CEO, Dollar Bank
• Brandon Mendoza, director, public and government affairs, Master Builders’ Association of Western Pennsylvania Inc.
• Marimba Milliones, president and CEO, Hill Community Development Corp.
• David Motley, general partner, Black Tech Nation Ventures; co-founder, African American Directors Forum; president and CEO, MCAPS LLC
• Susheela Nemani-Stanger, executive director, Urban Redevelopment Authority of Pittsburgh
• Louis Oliva, executive managing director, Pittsburgh office, Newmark
• Stefani Pashman, CEO, Allegheny Conference on Community Development
• Gregg Perelman, CEO and founding partner, and Todd Reidbord, president and founding partner, Walnut Capital
• Lucas Piatt, CEO, Piatt Companies; founder and CEO, Piatt Sotheby’s International Realty
• Michael Polite, EVP, Beacon Communities LLC
• Herky Pollock, executive vice president and Northeast director Retailer Services Group, CBRE
• Ven Raju, president and CEO, Innovation Works
• Peter Rander, president, and Bryan Salesky, CEO, Stack AV
• Sam Reiman, director, Richard King Mellon Foundation
• Toby Rice, president and CEO, EQT Corp.
• David Roger, president, Hillman Family Foundations
• Clifford Rowe Jr., executive chairman, PJ Dick/Trumbull/Lindy Group
• Audrey Russo, president and CEO, Pittsburgh Technology Council
• Rafael Santana, president and CEO, Wabtec Corp.
• Sabrina Saunders Mosby, president and CEO, Vibrant Pittsburgh
• Jim Scalo, CEO, Burns Scalo Real Estate
• Lisa Schroeder, president and CEO, The Pittsburgh Foundation
• James Segerdahl, global managing partner, and Thomas J. Smith, co-United States managing partner, K&L Gates
• Susie Shipley, president, Pennsylvania, Ohio Valley and Mahoning Valley Region, Huntington National Bank
• Darrell Smalley, Pittsburgh office managing partner, EY
• Don Smith Jr., president, Regional Industrial Development Corp. (RIDC)
• Matt Smith, chief growth officer, Allegheny Conference on Community Development
• Brandon Snyder, vice president, Pittsburgh market leader, Al. Neyer
• John Thornton, CEO, Astrobotic Technology Inc.
• Jaime Tuite, head of the Pittsburgh office, Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney PC
• Thomas Tull, founder, chairman and CEO, Tulco LLC
• Nish Vartanian, chairman, president and CEO, MSA Safety Inc.
• Luis Von Ahn, co-founder and CEO, Duolingo Inc.
• Jeremy Waldrup, president and CEO, Pittsburgh Downtown Partnership
• Kevin Walker, president and CEO, Duquesne Light Holdings Inc.
• Bobbi Watt Geer, president and CEO, United Way of Southwestern Pennsylvania
• Kendra Whitlock Ingram, president and CEO, Pittsburgh Cultural Trust
• Karen Wolk Feinstein, president and CEO, Jewish Healthcare Foundation
• Albert Wright Jr., president and CEO, West Virginia University (WVU) Health System
• Dr. Don Yealy, chief medical officer, UPMC

LEGENDS

• Doris Carson Williams, president and CEO, African American Chamber of Commerce of Western Pennsylvania
• Helen Hanna Casey, CEO, Hanna Holdings Inc.; Annie Hanna Cestra, COO, Hanna Holdings Inc.; Howard “Hoddy” Hanna III, chairman, Hanna Holdings Inc.
• J. Christopher Donahue, chairman, president and CEO, Federated Hermes Inc.
• Art Rooney II, president and owner, Pittsburgh Steelers
• Bill Strickland, founder and executive chairman, Manchester Bidwell Corp.

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The Southwest Pennsylvania Commission will host an in-person and virtual federal Climate Pollution Reduction Grants Workshop on January 8 at the SPC Offices, Strip District Terminal Building, 21st and Smallman Streets in Pittsburgh from 10:00 a.m. to Noon.

This SPC Workshop is your chance to learn about reducing pollution and making a positive impact on our environment and will provide valuable insights and strategies for implementing climate pollution reduction projects.

Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with like-minded individuals and organizations who are passionate about creating a sustainable future and learn more about $5 billion in federal grants available.

Click Here to register to attend in-person. Click Here to attend virtually.

Learn more about grants by visiting the SPC Climate Pollution Reduction Implementation Grants webpage. Questions should be directed to Cathy Tulley at ctulley@spcregion.org.

Visit the Southwest Pennsylvania Commission website and the SPC Water Resource Center webpage to learn more about other educational opportunities.

View the full story at paenvironmentdaily.blogspot.com

Rich Fitzgerald joined Tyler Friel during the WISR News at Noon. 

Outgoing Allegheny County Executive Rich Fitzgerald has already announced starting next year he will become the Executive Director of the Southwestern Pennsylvania Commission.

In his new role he will be overseeing economic development in the 10-county western Pennsylvania region.

With billions of dollars coming to the region for infrastructure, Fitzgerald wants to spend that money on more than just major highways.

“I don’t want to limit it to just highways, there are things we could do for places like Moraine State Park that could be dollars accessed through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the IRA, which are projects that deal with climate change and decarbonization,” Fitzgerald said.

Fitzgerald also talked about what his goal will be for the area in 10 years.

“For people when they grow up, I want people to say there are jobs here so that my kids can live there and I can see my grandkids,” Fitzgerald said.

View the full story and listen to the interview at butlerradio.com.